Comments on: Calvary Chapel “Verse by Verse Teaching through the Bible” http://www.modernpulpit.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/ The modern pulpit from a reforming layman's perspective Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:56:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John Knowles http://www.modernpulpit.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-923 John Knowles Fri, 20 May 2011 17:29:15 +0000 http://www.thlibo.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-923 Having been involved with calvary chapel from about 1974 and also having been ordained by the calvary chapel outreach fellowship (Chuck signed my ordination papers himself) it saddens me greatly to see what has become of my beloved Calvary. The Jesus Movement was a wonderful outpouring of the Holy Spirit on our generation. Now a non-denominational denomination and the great protestant faith has been replaced with whatever Chuck says. Orthodoxy is defined by his theology thus Premilinial dispensational arminianism all a terrible mistake in basic biblical theology seem to have won the day. But God knows no defeat. The more our brothers in that movement study God's word the more will in time be taught a more perfect way. By this I mean monergistic salvation by the blood and grace of Jesus alone SGD. Having been involved with calvary chapel from about 1974 and also having been ordained by the calvary chapel outreach fellowship (Chuck signed my ordination papers himself) it saddens me greatly to see what has become of my beloved Calvary. The Jesus Movement was a wonderful outpouring of the Holy Spirit on our generation. Now a non-denominational denomination and the great protestant faith has been replaced with whatever Chuck says. Orthodoxy is defined by his theology thus Premilinial dispensational arminianism all a terrible mistake in basic biblical theology seem to have won the day. But God knows no defeat. The more our brothers in that movement study God’s word the more will in time be taught a more perfect way. By this I mean monergistic salvation by the blood and grace of Jesus alone SGD.

]]> By: randy http://www.modernpulpit.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-887 randy Sun, 06 Mar 2011 19:20:35 +0000 http://www.thlibo.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-887 Wim, My point here is that just because a church claims to teach verse by verse does not automatically mean that they are being faithful to the text. There are many sound teachers who teach the bible verse by verse and there are many churches who make the claim, "we teach verse by verse" but in actuality do great injustice to the scripture. Here is a compilation of generally sound teaching: http://www.monergism.com/mp3/ I hope that helps! Wim,

My point here is that just because a church claims to teach verse by verse does not automatically mean that they are being faithful to the text. There are many sound teachers who teach the bible verse by verse and there are many churches who make the claim, “we teach verse by verse” but in actuality do great injustice to the scripture.

Here is a compilation of generally sound teaching: http://www.monergism.com/mp3/

I hope that helps!

]]> By: Wim Moreels http://www.modernpulpit.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-886 Wim Moreels Sun, 06 Mar 2011 15:41:21 +0000 http://www.thlibo.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-886 hello i listen to teaching on the net, verse by verse, it helps me to get a better understanding of scripture (sermons in church are often superficial). maybe this is not always sound teaching? if so, please direct me to good internet sites which have verse by verse teaching thank you hello

i listen to teaching on the net, verse by verse, it helps me to get a better understanding of scripture (sermons in church are often superficial).

maybe this is not always sound teaching?

if so, please direct me to good internet sites which have verse by verse teaching

thank you

]]> By: Calvary Chapel Distinctives: The Priority Of The Word | Modern Pulpit http://www.modernpulpit.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-830 Calvary Chapel Distinctives: The Priority Of The Word | Modern Pulpit Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:57:56 +0000 http://www.thlibo.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-830 [...] See also prior related post: Calvary Chapel Verse by Verse Teaching Through the Bible [...] [...] See also prior related post: Calvary Chapel Verse by Verse Teaching Through the Bible [...]

]]> By: Gail http://www.modernpulpit.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-95 Gail Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:09:04 +0000 http://www.thlibo.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-95 Calvary Chapels use regular Bibles such as King James, new Kings James etc.. The Catholic Bible is also just a regular Bible with one exception, they have a few extra books thrown in. The books from what I understand are historical. The Catholics consider these books as part of the Bible but of course they are not. Calvary Chapels use regular Bibles such as King James, new Kings James etc.. The Catholic Bible is also just a regular Bible with one exception, they have a few extra books thrown in. The books from what I understand are historical. The Catholics consider these books as part of the Bible but of course they are not.

]]> By: Betty http://www.modernpulpit.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-94 Betty Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:38:46 +0000 http://www.thlibo.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-94 I have a question. Is the bible used by Calvary Chapel different from the bible used by Catholics? If so, what is the difference. I have a question. Is the bible used by Calvary Chapel different from the bible used by Catholics? If so, what is the difference.

]]> By: Marie http://www.modernpulpit.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-93 Marie Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:21:09 +0000 http://www.thlibo.com/2009/10/30/calvary-chapel-verse-by-verse-teaching-through-the-bible/#comment-93 At Calvary Chapel my bible was an NIV.....the "nearly inspired version" says CC pastors...oh my goodness, what's with all their "clever" comments anyway? (seminary = cemetary) I have seen people talk of how CC teaches "verse by verse"....with a mesmerized look on their face, like CC is the only church in the world that ever opened a bible. Give me a break! That's brainwashing. I had a friend who was in the 7th Day Adventist church (doctrinally wrong, wrong, wrong) and she said she sat under a pastor for years who taught "verse by verse" and still came away with all the SDA doctrines intact. "Verse by verse" teaching is certainly NO guarantee that the pastor is "rightly dividing the word of truth". YES, and where do they get that business about angels having sex with humans and reproducing, was it the nephilim? Oh I know its in Genesis, but I think it's bad to grab something "iffy" like that and run with it. If I was sharing my faith with someone who desperately needed to hear it, am I going to talk about angels having sex with humans? I think not. Chuck Missler is a sensationalist. He had everybody who listened to him scared to death at Y2K....it sells books and CDs, what should we expect? There was another scripture that CC pastors used to use a lot to keep insubordination to a minimum....the one about "do my prophet(s) no harm". I believe that was one of those mutilated texts. There was a CC pastor/teacher, Justin Alfred....anyone remember him? We had him at our CC to teach a 3 day introductory course in Greek. It was great! Our pastor made questionable/out of line comments and couldn't seem to get beyond the fact that Justin Alfred actually had a college degree. I'm no longer at Calvary Chapel....can you tell? My story is under another heading here, Why I Left Calvary Chapel: a non-denominational denomination. Randy, I'm loving your blog! At Calvary Chapel my bible was an NIV…..the “nearly inspired version” says CC pastors…oh my goodness, what’s with all their “clever” comments anyway? (seminary = cemetary)

I have seen people talk of how CC teaches “verse by verse”….with a mesmerized look on their face, like CC is the only church in the world that ever opened a bible. Give me a break! That’s brainwashing. I had a friend who was in the 7th Day Adventist church (doctrinally wrong, wrong, wrong) and she said she sat under a pastor for years who taught “verse by verse” and still came away with all the SDA doctrines intact. “Verse by verse” teaching is certainly NO guarantee that the pastor is “rightly dividing the word of truth”.

YES, and where do they get that business about angels having sex with humans and reproducing, was it the nephilim? Oh I know its in Genesis, but I think it’s bad to grab something “iffy” like that and run with it. If I was sharing my faith with someone who desperately needed to hear it, am I going to talk about angels having sex with humans? I think not. Chuck Missler is a sensationalist. He had everybody who listened to him scared to death at Y2K….it sells books and CDs, what should we expect?

There was another scripture that CC pastors used to use a lot to keep insubordination to a minimum….the one about “do my prophet(s) no harm”. I believe that was one of those mutilated texts.

There was a CC pastor/teacher, Justin Alfred….anyone remember him? We had him at our CC to teach a 3 day introductory course in Greek. It was great! Our pastor made questionable/out of line comments and couldn’t seem to get beyond the fact that Justin Alfred actually had a college degree.

I’m no longer at Calvary Chapel….can you tell? My story is under another heading here, Why I Left Calvary Chapel: a non-denominational denomination. Randy, I’m loving your blog!

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