http://www.modernpulpit.com/2009/09/07/why-are-the-reformed-always-trying-to-convert-modern-evangelicals/ The modern pulpit from a reforming layman's perspective Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:56:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 http://www.modernpulpit.com/2009/09/07/why-are-the-reformed-always-trying-to-convert-modern-evangelicals/#comment-829 BonelessChuck Tue, 12 Oct 2010 04:12:02 +0000 http://www.thlibo.com/2009/09/07/why-are-the-reformed-always-trying-to-convert-modern-evangelicals/#comment-829 I will say this can be unnerving....rather I agree with the doctrinal stance is beside the point. I know people whose whole Christian walk.life is about arguing a particular doctrine-rather it be Reformed doctrine or that one must go to church on the "Sabbath" (Saturday ). That is what their whole Christian experinece is about. When I was going to a Calvary Chapel (attended one for 12 years-3 others in the next 5 years-and have since left it completely) there was a guy who came to CC but believed Reformed Theology-he was constantly trying to sway people to his beliefs, it seemed to be a prideful challenge for him or he just liked to debate and argue. He tried to sway the youth and finally teh pastor had to kick him out and told him never to return. I mean seriously if you do not believe what a church is teaching WHY would attend it ? ! This is one of the reasons I have decided and am at present not going to church anywhere. I am sick of all the whole "church" thing-its nothing but a social club where well off American's can sip latte's and listen to rock worship music, go to endless retreats, seminars, conferences, buy "Christian books and CDs, isolate themselves with only a "christian " circle of friends, expect God to give them a BMW, sit up in thier $20 million dollar church buildings while Christians in Africa or China suffer, and yet we bemoan how bad we have it taht half our population is n anti-depressants (including Christians) or debate who has the correct doctrine. Not that doctrine is not important mind you- but its just all these things put together that have convinced that man has taken what Christ meant His Church to be and turned it into a work of the flesh and a man thing. I admit sitting under 15 years of CC teaching with a young arrogant apstor did not help my outlook-but I just have given up on the whole church affair, for now anyway. If I am in sin regarding this let God judge me-for He is the only One who can-I will no longer man to do so ! I will say this can be unnerving….rather I agree with the doctrinal stance is beside the point. I know people whose whole Christian walk.life is about arguing a particular doctrine-rather it be Reformed doctrine or that one must go to church on the “Sabbath” (Saturday ). That is what their whole Christian experinece is about. When I was going to a Calvary Chapel (attended one for 12 years-3 others in the next 5 years-and have since left it completely) there was a guy who came to CC but believed Reformed Theology-he was constantly trying to sway people to his beliefs, it seemed to be a prideful challenge for him or he just liked to debate and argue. He tried to sway the youth and finally teh pastor had to kick him out and told him never to return. I mean seriously if you do not believe what a church is teaching WHY would attend it ? !
This is one of the reasons I have decided and am at present not going to church anywhere. I am sick of all the whole “church” thing-its nothing but a social club where well off American’s can sip latte’s and listen to rock worship music, go to endless retreats, seminars, conferences, buy “Christian books and CDs, isolate themselves with only a “christian ” circle of friends, expect God to give them a BMW, sit up in thier $20 million dollar church buildings while Christians in Africa or China suffer, and yet we bemoan how bad we have it taht half our population is n anti-depressants (including Christians) or debate who has the correct doctrine. Not that doctrine is not important mind you- but its just all these things put together that have convinced that man has taken what Christ meant His Church to be and turned it into a work of the flesh and a man thing. I admit sitting under 15 years of CC teaching with a young arrogant apstor did not help my outlook-but I just have given up on the whole church affair, for now anyway. If I am in sin regarding this let God judge me-for He is the only One who can-I will no longer man to do so !

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